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SERIOUS DEBATE THREAD RETURNS: HEALTH CARE REFORM


It's time to separate the commies from the ... other ... posters.


Barack Obama wants to mandate health insurance and create a public insurance option.  HOW DO YOU RESPOND??


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I'd say almost everyone here who is willing to have a serious discussion is against it.

Personally, I don't approve but I couldn't care that much about this kind of stuff anymore. Nothing surprises me.

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It just irritates me how the Dems in Washington give us a false dilemma of their specific (idiotic) reform and no reform at all. Sure, the system needs reformed, but a public option that will inevitably collapse into a single-payer system is not an improvement on what we have today.

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The system needs to be dismantled, not reformed.

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Well, to turn what we have into a smoldering pile of forgotten trash is, in my opinion, to "re-form" it.

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Well in that sense 9/11 was more a redecoration of the twin towers.

Anyway, the whole medicare/medicaid system is already out of hand. Our government has already reached insane levels of incompetence without a full on public option. Social Security costs will destroy this country if something isn't done, and that something isn't expanding it.

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The voluntary dismantling of health care regulations in no way compares to the wholesale slaughter of thousands of unarmed civilians while destroying two of the finest pieces of architecture in the history of mankind. I'm just saying that deregulation is a kind of reformation.

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It was just a tongue-in-cheek comment, Jasno. SHEESH MAN.

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It just stuck a nerve.  As a fan of the NYC skyline, I'm sure you can sympathize.

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ANYWAY.

Nothing will get done with Republicans simply showing how ineffective it is. The Left has gone from being about practical results to being ideologically motivated towards an idea of "fairness" and "equality". Spread around the poverty.

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the health care system is financially predatory.  left as-is, one serious medical condition could permanently impoverish a family.  this could cause the patient to ignore the lethal condition or this could cause the patient to receive treatment, declare bankruptcy, and leave the care providers holding the bag.  both of these outcomes are inefficient and objectionable to some degree. 

the coase theorem claims a solution exists; however, this will not be realized until the government owns up to the fact that good medical care is a scarce resource and the health care industry owns up to its top priority:  human welfare.


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