Iowa overturns gay marriage ban

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Iowa overturns gay marriage ban

MATHSEX · MASTER BATOR

i respect anyone who sticks it to those fear-mongering douches:

"... rejects the wisdom of thousands of years of human history. It implements a novel understanding of marriage, which will grievously harm families and children."

-- Edited by MATHSEX on Saturday 4th of April 2009 10:50:38 PM

Jason · Only in cartoons

Now Vermont, the first state to actually make gay marriage legal by legislation and not a court decision. They even overruled the ******* governor's veto.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

I thought Mass was through the legislature. Oh well, that has definitely stuck either way.

The Northeast - it's a pretty gay place.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Today D.C. just voted to recognize same-sex marriages from states that allow it.

It's just a matter of time until they fully legalize it themselves, though Congress has the power to override them there.

Jason · Only in cartoons

I think New Hampshire has a similar bill going through their Senate right now. D.C.'s city council unanimously decided to recognize gay marriages in other states. Let's hope this trend continues.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

There is no chance of it passing in some states at this point. Iowa was a shock to some, but a friend tells me there is actually a pretty large gay community.

We won't see it passed in much of Dixie.

I'd be happy with a federal law, but people will start bitching about states rights.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Simply repealing DoMA would be a good start - that's the federal law which prevents same-sex spouses from participating in any of the federal benefits that come with marriage, such as joint filing of federal income taxes, and spousal benefits for benefits for federal employees.

That part is actually being challenged in federal court, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were held unconstitutional on equal protection grounds, but to get any benefit from it, the couple would still have to get married in a state that allows SSM.

The other main part of DoMA, which says that states are not required to recognize same-sex marriages from other states, might be unconstitutional under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, but I don't know if it's being challenged on those grounds.

On the state level, I think the trend is definitely moving towards recognizing SSM, and if it trends toward legalizing it though the legislature, rather than the courts, it will have far more staying power and legitimacy.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Btw, way to drop the ball California.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Prop. 8 will be repealed by the voters within 5 years.

It wouldn't have passed in the first place if its opponents hadn't run such an inept campaign.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

It also might have more legitimacy of gays didn't run into churches making out.

Jason · Only in cartoons

Why should they have to hide their affection?

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

It was an intentional stunt to piss off people at the church/get attention to their cause. They busted in full-on queen apparel making out.

Jason · Only in cartoons

I see nothing wrong with that.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

It's, if nothing else, a bad way to garner support. It only furthers the stereotypes in the stubbornly religious that gays are wild, out of control, sex-crazy perverts. It would be like an atheist walking into a church and burning a bible to prove his point.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Not to mention that churches are private property.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Churches are almost always open to the public during services, though. I think they were resisting to leave at first, trying to avoid whoever the hell kicks people out of church.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Jesus kicks people out of church.

Duh!

Pizza · Sheriff of Paddy's

On a barely related note, I have two weirdo neighbors that are the fattest, gayest redneck couple ever. They're always walking around with their shirts off, and racing these gay little remote control cars down the street.

When I think of what their particular sex life must be like, I think of the most perverse, scary things imaginable. Like they're banging each other standing up, and one is dressed like a cheerleader and the other is dressed like a clown, and there's a pig involved, and one of them has to stay in a cage while the other one pees, and like, Goodbye Horses is playing in the background.

Jason · Only in cartoons

Sounds like you've spent a lot of time picturing them having sex.