This kid rules

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

This kid rules

SlashXLA · Senior Member

This kid is twisting statistics.

MATHSEX · MASTER BATOR

"kids who do 60 to 90 minutes of homework in middle school and over 2 [sic] hours in high school, actually, score worse than average on standardized tests"

1) if only two students from the groups discussed did worse than average on standardized tests, this claim is right

2) the students in question, who score worse-than-average, would probably spend 60 to 90 minutes and two hours, respectively, on homework that should take the average student half of the time to complete

3) this claim is pretty axiomatic if the 60 to 90 minutes and the two hours account for the entire amount of homework done throughout middle school and high school, respectively. however, it's somewhat safe to assume he means 60 to 90 minutes per schoolday

-- Edited by MATHSEX at 03:43, 2009-03-11

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

There is still no evidence that homework does anything positive for a student. It mostly screws them up. The process of learning should ALWAYS be moderated by someone to teach the kid. In-room classwork is much more effective than sending a kid home with work that he will probably get his parents to do, cheat on or not complete. I'd say reading and review in class of the reading is the only homework a kid should have. Reading is good, and it doesn't have to be monitored by a teacher. If the kid has questions the next day, take that as a sign that he is interested in the subject or at least wants to do well. Sending kids home with crap they can't understand is retarded

College is different. College is more about specialization for a degree in some kind of field.

-- Edited by DEATHPIGGIE at 03:49, 2009-03-11

MATHSEX · MASTER BATOR

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

There is still no evidence that homework does anything positive for a student.

College is different.

-- Edited by DEATHPIGGIE at 03:49, 2009-03-11

slow down there, poindexter! homework only helps college kids?

few people enjoy doing stuff they don't enjoy: that almost goes without saying. similarly, students don't enjoy reinforcing what they were taught in class if they didn't want to learn it in the first place. if the subject matter is dull and resented, the homework will be resented, not absorbed; therefore, not positive.

in the context of a college degree, a larger fraction of courses required for the degree are courses the student wants to take (assuming the student likes his/her major field of study). hence, a larger fraction of the homework assigned is more useful as a result of open-mindedness

MATHSEX · MASTER BATOR

you're right about primary reading with an in-class supplement being a very good method for reinforcement. however, some subjects demand practice. math, science, programming, etc. are not spectator sports; they demand practice, practice, practice. and if cheating is an issue for unfairly earned points, those points will be meaningless if the student can't follow the correct process on an exam.

SlashXLA · Senior Member

I agree wholeheartedly with Mathsex on this issue.

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

I'd maybe disagree with this kid if 99% of pre-college homework weren't meaningless busywork. As it is now, I think he's right.

I remember having to do word-searches for homework in middle-school science classes.

Word-searches. In a science class.

Give meaningful assignments or GTFO.

-- Edited by john31584 at 15:29, 2009-03-11

MATHSEX · MASTER BATOR

john31584 wrote:

that explains why 65% of my graduating class had at least a 3.33/4.0 gpa

-- Edited by MATHSEX at 23:02, 2009-03-11

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Otters, by John Rose, grade 3

Otters are my favorite animal. They live in the ocean. They are mammals.

Otters are approximately 1.5 meters long. They eat things like crabs and fish.

Otters have very soft fur. Their fur is brown. I think they are cute.

The end.

[crude drawing of an otter]

Pizza · Sheriff of Paddy's

You're last name is ROSE? GOD YOU REALLY ARE GAY.

MorisUkunRasik · World's Strongest Millionaire

his name is very classy. he was probably born with a suit on smokin a pipe.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Pizza wrote:

You're last name is ROSE? GOD YOU REALLY ARE GAY.

YOU ARE LAST NAME IS ROSE! shocking

john31584 · Zinc Saucier

Today, we are all last name is Rose.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

NEVER 4GET.

Pizza · Sheriff of Paddy's

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