DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

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You realize taxation relies on the same principle of "forced volunteerism."?

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taxation relies on the fact that the economy is more efficient when infrastructure is funded by those who stand (directly or indirectly) to benefit from such infrastructure

Stealing from others is never practical, and no matter how many 15 year olds might just think it's a catchy phrase, it's still true; taxation is theft.

But ya know, let's pretend that government - an institution that is guaranteed to never be forced out of business- is the best thing for efficiently building infrastructure.

After all, our schools are great and are roads are in tip top shape. But private roads always fail.

I am not saying we need to overthrow the entire tax system tomorrow.  That would cause chaos, but we have to phase out forced taxation in exchange for a government that does not force it's people to sustain it.

I have trouble understand how a free market would make the market less efficient. If the government did not steal money to pay for roads, people who benefited from roads would not pay for them?

How, exactly, do you imagine roads being paid for?

I imagine highways operating on some kind of toll system, where people pay for it who directly use it. The added cost for shipping on those roads would be built into the price of those goods.

Lower-key roads in residential neighborhoods or commercial districts could be paid by the occupants of the buildings which the roads connect. The cost of the roads would be built into the rent or the prices of the goods sold at stores.

If you directly benefit from the road, you pay for it directly. If you indirectly benefit from the road, you pay for it indirectly.

Presumably, if you do not benefit at all from the road, you do not pay for it. This strikes me as not only efficient, but just.

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

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government - an institution that is guaranteed to never be forced out of business

I am not saying we need to overthrow the entire tax system tomorrow.  That would cause chaos, but we have to phase out forced taxation in exchange for a government that does not force it's people to sustain it.

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the second amendment exists for the anticipation of the day when government is forced out of business

roads aside, i have yet to be convinced that private institutions can yield better results than government.  even if the government fucks up, new employees are hired in exchange for firing worthless douches (there are exceptions including the electoral college).  it comes to some comfort that there is usually a fair chance that a shitty employee gets the boot in exchange for a better-qualified candidate.  for instance, all bills pertaining to the financial decisions of the government are proposed by employees who get job reviews twice as often as the CEO and three times as often as senators

The government hasn't been "taken out of business" yet...And it seems they've done a pretty bad job.

And while people can have their government jobs taken away, it's still the hardest kind of job to get fired from and does not need any incentive to stay in business, a cornerstone to basic economic theory...People need a real incentive, and government does not have it.

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