Probably the worst thing since the New Deal

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Probably the worst thing since the New Deal

Jason · Only in cartoons

STUPID SHEEPLE! GLOBAL WARMING IS IRRATIONAL ALARMIST BULL****! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS USING IT TO TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE, RAPE YOUR DAUGHTERS, AND KILL YOU FOR BREATHING?????

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

STUPID HUMAN BEING. YOU ARE THE REASON THIS PLANET IS SO MISERABLE, WHAT WITH ALL THIS PROGRESS. DON'T YOU KNOW EARTH COMES FIRST? DON'T YOU KNOW OUR LIVES SHOULD BE MISERABLE FOR THE SAKE OF A FEW UPPITY LIBERALS WHO HATE HUMAN KIND AND THINK EARTH IS GOD?

Jason · Only in cartoons

Nothing is going to come of this. The EPA is not going to seize control over the entire country. Executive orders can't take your rights away. This is hype and hysteria.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Jason wrote:

Nothing is going to come of this. The EPA is not going to seize control over the entire country. Executive orders can't take your rights away. This is hype and hysteria, now back to how government sucks and has no legitimate right to do anything. Wait, shut up piggie.

habeas corpus a bloo bloo bloo.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

I can't think of one time the federal government ever did anything extremely damaging to America. Not once. Never

I hate the government and everything guys, but what have they ever done to run their citizens lives?

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Folks, all I'm saying is that federal decisions have no bearing on our lives

Get with the program

Jason · Only in cartoons

You're deliberately misinterpreting what I said.

The EPA is an unjust institution, as is the whole of the United States government.

Executive orders do not have the authority of law, although many a conspiracy theorist imagines they do. Laws passed by Congress and signed by the President, however, can and do destroy our civil liberties.

The idea that the EPA is going to take over the country is just silly. You realize this country is mostly conservative right? A lot of them don't even think global warming is real -- do you think they would tolerate that kind of crap?

To believe the paranoid, alarmist trash you linked to, you would have to have a) absolutely zero confidence in the will of the American people or b) have a delusional paranoia that clouds your every judgment.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Most of the country is conservative? Do you have something to back that up? I don't recognize that.

Also, the active people are the Liberals/Socialists and the Christian Right. They are the 2 major forces in American politics, and the results are obvious. No Conservative country ( Not that I like conservatives ) would ever have given way to the 2 candidates we have.

As far as you saying executive orders have no real authority, I'd strongly disagree. This is an obvious grab at power from the EPA. I don't believe over night this is going to happen, but the effects will be felt. However, if i had posted a link to some ACLU ( I like them ) article about how the executive branch is trying to do away with habeas corpus entirely, or some more liberal-leaning article, I think you'd be all over it. Of course, that is just speculation.

I remember you posting a Keith Olbermann video awhile back about the end of the Bill of Rights or something, and about how habeas corpus was dead. You claim I'm being alarmist and paranoid, and you link to moonbats like Olbermann.

SlashXLA · Senior Member

Hey piggie, do you pay taxes (I'm seriously asking)?

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

I'll be filing for the first time next year, Slash.

MorisUkunRasik · World's Strongest Millionaire

the government has taken about 4,500 from me so far this year alone.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

MorisUkunRasik wrote:

the government has taken about 4,500 from me so far this year alone.

The government has ruined my life. I'm only 10 years ooooold.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

MorisUkunRasik wrote:

the government has taken about 4,500 from me so far this year alone.

Oh and figuring in stuff like sales tax, I'm sure it's more than that.

Jason · Only in cartoons

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

Most of the country is conservative? Do you have something to back that up? I don't recognize that.

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:
However, if i had posted a link to some ACLU ( I like them ) article about how the executive branch is trying to do away with habeas corpus entirely, or some more liberal-leaning article, I think you'd be all over it. Of course, that is just speculation.

That speculation would be about as well-founded as the article you posted (read: not at all).

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:
I remember you posting a Keith Olbermann video awhile back about the end of the Bill of Rights or something, and about how habeas corpus was dead. You claim I'm being alarmist and paranoid, and you link to moonbats like Olbermann.

First, I have been guilty of alarmism in the past, and I freely admit to this. Second, legally we do not have habeas corpus. It is only a matter of precedent that habeas corpus rights are being respected. Also, the law restricting it would immediately be challenged and the Supreme Court would likely strike it down. Thus, habeas corpus violations are restricted to people who have little or no chance of effectively fighting back.

MorisUkunRasik · World's Strongest Millionaire

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

MorisUkunRasik wrote:

the government has taken about 4,500 from me so far this year alone.

Oh and figuring in stuff like sales tax, I'm sure it's more than that.

I am a consumer whore.

At least I have yet to become very successful and make a lot of money or I would have to give the government a much larger portion.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

This is a much fairer map.

Not that I think Democrat/Republican is a fair view of Liberals and conservatives. Both my parents are somewhat conservative, but they vote Democrat.

SlashXLA · Senior Member

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:
I'll be filing for the first time next year, Slash.

Declare as little as possible and commit as much fraud as you are comfortable with.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

SlashXLA wrote:

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:
I'll be filing for the first time next year, Slash.

Declare as little as possible and commit as much fraud as you are comfortable with.

Maybe I won't file. Maybe I'll become employed and never have to pay.

Nah, I'm a coward.

SlashXLA · Senior Member

I'm not declaring about $3000 in tips and what not, and last year I ripped NYS off for a couple hundred by photoshopping a certain form.

I'm probably going to go to prison.