Sure he murdered a woman

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Sure he murdered a woman

Andy001 · Spaghetti

I don't think it's quite fair to describe what he did as murder. Manslaughter perhaps.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

However, I'm certain that there would be many things that I disagree with him on. Nut someone who is such a strong advocate for universal healthcare will always get some degree of approval from me.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Every democrat does, so...

And I'm sure it was manslaughter. He got away with it nonetheless.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Also ,I do not get how someone who isn't a total retard can advocate the theft of people's money like that.

You could advocate that people put their money into a pool, or something like that. That is called private charity...YOu don't need to coerce anyone.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

I think there is room for a system that is neither based on charity nor 'theft'.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

What is wrong with a charity system?

Andy001 · Spaghetti

It's inefficient, and I consider it to be demeaning.

Jason · Only in cartoons

So if people give you money, it's demeaning, but if someone robs other people and gives their money to you, it's benevolent?

Also, Ted Kennedy may have committed manslaughter because it wasn't premeditated, but he is nevertheless a coward and a despicable human being who should be shunned and reviled by society, not respected and paid by the public purse.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

A charity system, by the way, was precisely what the majority of the British population relied on prior to the establishment of the NHS, and it was a resounding failure. You should take a look at the history of these things, it's interesting.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Instead, he is lionized by the second worst party in America.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Andy001 wrote:

A charity system, by the way, was precisely what the majority of the British population relied on prior to the establishment of the NHS, and it was a resounding failure. You should take a look at the history of these things, it's interesting.

I took a long look at the NHS for my final research paper last semester, and if somethnig was worse than that...Well, what an accomplishment.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

Charity doesn't work, end of story.
Find a better way to distribute healthcare if you are so vehemently opposed to centralisation.

Jason · Only in cartoons

Andy001 wrote:

Charity arguably didn't work at a certain time in Great Britain and therefore would never work anywhere ever.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Andy001 wrote:

Charity doesn't work, end of story.
Find a better way to distribute healthcare if you are so vehemently opposed to centralisation.

Charity isn't the only way, of course. 210,000,000 Americans find that private health care is affordable. The rest are either uninsured or on the public dollar.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

The NHS is functioning quite well at the moment. It's problems over the last decade were due to under-funding but more importantly down to the mistaken idea of trying to integrate a market-driven model of performance which hindered the actual treatment of patients. Thankfully, we have come to realise this doesn't work.

Andy001 · Spaghetti

Anyway, if you want my model of how national healthcare should work, it would be less like a charity and more along the lines of a syndicate.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

1. a group of individuals or organizations combined or making a joint effort to undertake some specific duty or carry out specific transactions or negotiations: The local furniture store is individually owned, but is part of a buying syndicate.
2. a combination of bankers or capitalists formed for the purpose of carrying out some project requiring large resources of capital, as the underwriting of an issue of stock or bonds.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Boy, that sure sounds like a charity to me.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

Anyway, I'm fine with any system as long as you leave government out of it, and allow people to choose to get their health care from private for profit institutions and don't make your system mandatory.