The New York Times

cheeselover · I NEED BABIES!!!

RE: The New York Times

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

They look like one of those families that is too perfect. The athletic sons, the good looking daughters, the successful mother and father.

I'll bet they worship Satan or something

Jason · Only in cartoons

I don't think the underage factor is as important as the indignity of the violation when someone masturbates to photos of someone who would likely not consent to the act.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

You actually think it's wrong to jack off to a picture of someone who hasn't expressed consent for you to do it?

Jason · Only in cartoons

Yes.

The expression of consent can be tacit. Women in pornography, or who pose in sexually suggestive in magazines (I'm thinking Maxim and the like), are offering themselves publicly in a sexual way. They can expect to be taken as such.

DEATHPIGGIE · I'm fat and nobody likes me

What about the fact that Palin came in second for Miss Alaska? She obviously loves all eyes on her.

Also, I find nothing wrong with fantasizing about someone you know, or think is good looking. I would not have gotten through high school

Jason · Only in cartoons

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

What about the fact that Palin came in second for Miss Alaska? She obviously loves all eyes on her.

Miss Alaska is a beauty pageant, not a peep show. It is possible to separate beauty and sexuality, even if they're often tied together.

But let's take for granted that Miss Alaska qualifies as publicly offering oneself sexually. That was what? 20 years ago? More? That has no bearing on how one is to treat her today. Again, accepting that a beauty pageant is a sexual context, it might be acceptable to masturbate to beauty pageant pictures. However, entering oneself into a beauty pageant would never count for being seen in that sexual context (which I don't think it is) for the rest of one's life.

She does not offer herself that way anymore, publicly, and that does change the rules.

Jason · Only in cartoons

As for fantasies, you can't really help what fantasies you have, but I do think it's disrespectful to indulge in them if you can be confident the person about whom your fantasizing would not approve of what you're doing.