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john31584 wrote:
 
My understanding (MathSEX, correct me if I'm wrong) is that you'd be stretched apart by tidal forces as you approached it. That doesn't sound very pleasant.

 




 that is correct.  the scientific term for this process is spaghettification



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Supposedly and theoretically, if your head were to maintain intact and alive across the event horizon, before it was disintegrated, you would see the entire universe and all future events in a single instance.




the major flaw of that assumption is that it would take infinitely long to cross the event horizon.  which is why it's called a horizon:  you never reach your destination, much like you can never reach a horizon

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In astrophysics, spaghettification is the stretching of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong gravity field, and is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components are.

The word spaghettification comes from an example given by Stephen Hawking in his book A Brief History of Time, where he describes the plight of a fictional astronaut who, passing within a black hole's event horizon, is "stretched like spaghetti" by the gravitational gradient (difference in strength) from head to toe.


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You know what's better than space?

Natalie Portman.

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You know what's better than space?

Natalie Portman.




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MorisUkunRasik wrote:

a very strong gravity field, and is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near black holes, the stretching is so powerful that no object can withstand it, no matter how strong its components are.




a gravitational field so strong that not even massless particles (gauge bosons: photons or a colorless pairing of gluons) can escape its yank

edit:  those zany QCD physicists named the theoretical pairing of gluons "glueballs"

-- Edited by MATHSEX at 04:16, 2008-09-19

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MATHSEX wrote:

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I CALL IT A HAWKING HOLE

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China is getting ready for its third manned spaceflight, scheduled to launch tomorrow. They're planning on doing the country's first spacewalk on this mission.

It's like the early 60s all over again!

Now I want to watch Mad Men.

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MATHSEX wrote:

DEATHPIGGIE wrote:

Supposedly and theoretically, if your head were to maintain intact and alive across the event horizon, before it was disintegrated, you would see the entire universe and all future events in a single instance.




the major flaw of that assumption is that it would take infinitely long to cross the event horizon.  which is why it's called a horizon:  you never reach your destination, much like you can never reach a horizon



Why is that? Is the event horizon not a cognizable point (or plane, or edge of a sphere, or whatever) in space? What's special about a black hole that you can't actually cross one? What happens to matter that we observe getting sucked into a black hole?

Or do you mean that it's impossible for a conscious observer to reach the event horizon, due to relativistic effects?

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You know what's better than space?

Natalie Portman.




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http://padme.ytmnd.com/

That is the best page ever because it involves Star Wars, Iron Maiden, and Natalie Portman.

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MATHSEX wrote:

the major flaw of that assumption is that it would take infinitely long to cross the event horizon.  which is why it's called a horizon:  you never reach your destination, much like you can never reach a horizon

Why is that? Is the event horizon not a cognizable point (or plane, or edge of a sphere, or whatever) in space? What's special about a black hole that you can't actually cross one? What happens to matter that we observe getting sucked into a black hole?

Or do you mean that it's impossible for a conscious observer to reach the event horizon, due to relativistic effects?

 



the observer/victim, while accelerated (uniformly) towards the black hole can never witness his/her own crossing beyond the event horizon, since it is the surface at which an event can no longer be observed.  if no information can reach you about your own crossing of this boundary, then you will never observe it.  the same goes for the inertial observer:  nobody can witness an object getting sucked into the black hole, although it takes a finite time for this process to occur.  and yes, this is due to relativistic effects.

on the other hand, there exists a quantum mechanical phenomenon known as hawking radiation.  this phenomenon is the emission of a spectrum of light due to the fact that the black hole has temperature (read up on blackbody radiation for an explanation of this phenomenon).  moreover, only a few properties of a black hole can be observed:  entropy (since the black hole has temperature), electrical charge, angular momentum (combined with charge yields a measurable/observable magnetic field), and mass.

edit:  although hawking radiation can tell you the temperature of the black hole, this only tells you the entropy of the black hole.  this will fail to give you any information about the state of a body within the hole, rather, it will tell you information about the disorder of the entire black hole

-- Edited by MATHSEX at 02:29, 2008-09-26

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SpaceX has finally done it!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/science/space/29launch.html?ref=us

After 3 failed attempts, a privately built and launched rocket has sent a payload into orbit.

-- Edited by john31584 at 05:06, 2008-09-29

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Nice. The private sector is venturing into space.

Space is so awesome. Hopefully I can go into it before I die.

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